Programming notes 1more [any flavor BASIC]

[kiyotewolf]

Ok.

I know in the FB forum, they have "rules", on what kind of BASIC you can talk about.

Although this is a bit off subject, I'm going to try to make this thread be open to discussion for any flavor of BASIC.

I mean, let's face it.

We all had to come from SOMEWHERE.

Microsoft wrote many of the original flavors of BASIC, and licensed it out.

We can use this to find common ground.

About the only individual flavor, was Apple Basic, or also called GAME BASIC, for the Apple ][e.

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Why am I going off into a tangent.

Well, I live in old computer books..

I mean OLD ones.

I did learn a TON about game programming, from the Commodore 64, because you had to deal with simple algebra, lots of arrays, and making games out of that.

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Also, based on my campfire story tale in the FB Forum, you will find a direct line from FB, backwards to many many early systems.

I started at a Coco 2, with a Coco 3 book, and went upwards from there.

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C was gibberish to me, and still is mostly, but I'm finding now I have about 12 books on C, for DOS, and am FINALLY going to find the free Borland compiler, for C, download it, and just DO IT.

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If we all try to expand and learn C, we can get our stuff on XNA Microsoft game studio networks.

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Also, we need to expand into Linux, because Unix is how everything works.

Unix was written in C.

Linux runs on Android phones.

We MUST work on advancing.



~Kiyote Wolf!

I'll leave this here for now. I'll be posting tips & tricks here, for now, since I am going to be bouncing from OS to OS and platform to platform and back to retro systems as well, to make certain points.

I learned EXACTLY how the original NES works, by dissecting MCGA and how IT works.

[.SILK.-3D-]

your literally light years more advanced then me, the guys on here typically play first person shooters and strategy games and i dont believe any of them have any knowledge of programming (or if they do not of Basic)

i started out in like 1992-1993 in dos 6.1, staring at qbasic, something i found in my dos install by just exploring, and by using the cryptic help files i was able to over the next year or two make a dot move.

since then i have learned the art of illusionary programming (lol not even a word let a lone a programming practice) basically i am very bad for making spaghetti code, also i tend to do things the novice way or a way that most people with formal training or a long time practicing would scoff at (if you see stuff like this [and u will] tell me and if you have better ways of doing it i am all ears), but to me in the end if my program works, things arent buggy, it plays like a game, it feels like a game, well its a game... and if theres one thing i do know about its gaming.

as for rules here on the forum we have very few, u can talk about whatever u want, rant, rave doesn't matter - just avoid racism, sexism, and griefing.

[.SILK.-3D-]

on the freebasic.net forum lachie upon seeing the code to my 2nd battle engine i created said cool, but never show this to anyone!

this is the very reason i usually shelter my code, because someone on a higher level gets on my nerves when they really start blasting my code, when they dont have anything similar themselves. (edited because that sounded snarky.. lol i mean to say sometimes they take for granted how much they know, sometimes simple concepts elude me.)

in relation to everyone else who is right into the bits and bytes... i am on the short bus.... but i dont see very many ppl create anything similar to what i do either the correct way or my broken ass way, so for all their talk -- if its so easy using advanced coding methods then how come i dont see more ppl creating similar stuff as myself?

dosen't make much sense to me

oh and also nothing against lachie his tuts have been a big help to me xD

[kiyotewolf]

Spaghetti code?

Oh, that's a fault of programming in BASIC, no matter which language.

That's not your fault.

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About "being lightyears ahead of me", .. nah.. I srsly don't think so.

I talk big talk, but have I produced games yet?

No not really.

About the only FEW games I ever made yet, was a washing dishes game, cause I wanted to make SOMETHING that was game like, then a roach racing game, based on two existing games, but coded from scratch.



~Kiyote!

[.SILK.-3D-]

i am almost to the point where i want to balloon the map to huge size and start laying out the world, and then populating it with people on certain squares.

pretty soonish i will have some quests in there lol, of course the battle engine is still semi-complete - but for now i am pleased with my progress.

the only thing that stands in my way now is the coding of doors, i would really like to have them in there.. then i have a bit of work to do on the battle menu system.

there is a lot to do still but a good chunk is done at least, also when it comes to adding new monsters, its actually easier for me to add new ones in bulk - since i have to add them to numerous places in the code, its only streamlined to a certain point.

[.SILK.-3D-]

any programs with or without source can be posted here if you want, i would love to look through your code the only thing stopping me is sheer laziness (well so much time invested into silk, games and my game) that i dont frequent the freebasic forums often, usually in the past i have just used it for some help (with tile engines) and for notifying the community of my project... there are so many started projects that fail to finish, that its a bit of a buzz killer for my game.

most people have a time window of when they are into their program and actively coding, then interest fades away, this project is actually like my 3rd attempt at a 1st person maze game, my third attempt at a battle engine (my 2nd one came to a point where it was complete)

everytime i redo something i redo it better, for instance in battle engine 2, i had put a rudimentary inventory where if you had something it showed up on a static list, if you didnt it would just blank that line and not allow player to select it... when doing the inventory this time i wanted the list to be dynamic, so if you use a potion in slot 4, slot 4 potion would dissappear and if the next item was a sword it would take that spot... looking back at it, inventories arent even that hard to do.

in the same amount of time as i completed my 1st inventory system years ago i was able to complete the new one, with a lot of added flavor to it. i have actually been making this game for years already is my point, and my activity has been busy in spurts.. i think this is the way to approach game creation, when u get burnt out take a break, when the ideas are flowing get to coding